Comments on: Feminist Paranoia Runs Amok Over Hadji Girl Song

By: Alas, a blog » Blog Archive » American Soldiers Arrested For Rape/Execution Of 14-Year Old Girl And Her Family

Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:10:33 +0000

[...] A couple of right-wing bloggers (here here and here) find it ridiculous that Heart sees a connection between an ever-so-funny song about shooting a sexy insurgent and her family to death, and the actual rape and murder that took place. Seelhoff quotes the Hadji Girl song, and (with typical Feminist logic) segues from a discussion of a humorous skit of a Marine turning the tables on insurgents who attack him, to the case of several soldiers from the 101th Airborne Division of the US Army, not Marines, who have been accused by Iraqis of participating in an incident of rape and murder in the Iraqi city of Mahmoudiya. [...]

By: Marcus

Marcus — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 19:07:26 +0000

Ok, fine. Let’s separate the song from the rape. You’re right, we weren’t there, we don’t know all the facts, all we know is what comes out of media sources and bias and conspiracy and blah blah blah.

That song is one of the most foul, racist dirges I’ve ever come across, and I’ve heard a lot. “Durka Durka” may have been written by the South Park guys, but those guys are satirists. It ceases to become satire the moment you use it against someone as a slur. By then it’s just plain ol’ racism. It’s precisely the kind of thing used to cheapen and dehumanize cultures and races to the point where we feel justified in dropping bombs on them.

I’m not female, I couldn’t be considered a feminist, and I’ve been a Republican voter since I was 18. I am a member of the “club”, so to speak, that you seem to belong to. But this song is hateful, disrespectful, dangerous, and doesn’t do a SINGLE THING to further the cause of any human on this planet. Soldiers shouldn’t require this kind of BS in order to dehumanize the enemy sufficiently to be able to kill them.

Personally I would prefer my soldiers to know their enemy, understand who they are and where they come from, and use that information when deciding how to interact with them. It makes them better soldiers and better citizens. If you dismiss them with obvious cheap shots at their language, you become the inhuman idiot, not your enemy.

By: Hazel

Hazel — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 21:50:28 +0000

Ginmar your comment is so timely, it reminds us all what it means to engage in combat. And what it doesn’t mean.

Hazel8500.

By: ginmar

ginmar — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 03:22:07 +0000

I’m a feminist, a soldier, and a combat veteran, and quite frankly, you don’t know what in hell you’re talking about. I did a year in Iraq. I was in combat. I was in a great unit, with a great commander, but do you think you’re doing anybody a favor by making excuses for these assholes? They dishonor the men and women I served with. Why are you defending them, instead of the soldiers who do their job every day, humanely and compassionately?

By: Rebecca

Rebecca — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 15:15:57 +0000

Perhaps Mr. Zincavage would benefit from reading more about the case before he assumes:

“We certainly do know that Islamic enemies of the United States are very well acquainted with our cultural vulnerabilities to accusations of this kind, and are prone to try to arrange such propaganda victories.”

Apparently it is our own soldiers have come forward and admitted to being involved.

May I suggest that following news story as a starting point:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/02/AR2006070200673.html

I do agree that we have “cultural vulnerabilities to accusations of this kind”. No matter what one may think of feminism, it is hard to claim that they are not wrong on that point—although I was surprised to find such a feminist viewpoint voiced here!

By: Rebecca

Rebecca — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 14:59:53 +0000

Hmmm…I heard that last lightbulb joke a bit differently:

Q: How many men does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A: Just one. He holds it up to the socket and waits for the world to revolve around him.

Then there is the similar one:

Q: How many men does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A: None. Men are so illogical that they consider it beneath them to do something that might even involve ladders and reaching.

Or…

Q: How many men does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A: That’s not funny! What are you, some sort of man-hater? You must be one of those radical feminist lesbians—- and I’ll bet you’re so ugly that no man would want you anyway! What you need is a good…oh, never mind.

All jokes aside, the reports that have come out of the rape/murder/cover-up incident have not made Ms. Seelhoff’s opinions so far-fetched as to contain no element of possible truth. The rape was planned and pre-meditated. (I wish the media would stop calling a young teenager a “woman”.) The fact is that our soldiers, supposedly “men” raped and murdered a girl. They did this by premeditation. There is evidence that they did sexually harrass the girl before they murdered her family, raped her, murdered her, and then tried to cover up their crime. Yes, there have been no convictions. Yet.

Was this linked to the song? I have no idea. But, frankly, I don’t think young girls dying is funny. I don’t think civilians dying in a war is funny. I don’t think women and girls being raped is funny. Call me humorless…I don’t care.

But I did laugh when I first heard the light bulb jokes I posted!

By: Father Marx

Father Marx — Thu, 06 Jul 2006 01:51:07 +0000

One thing we DO know, is that accusations like this have been flying around since the American troops entered Iraq, and so far all of them have been lies.

The female supremacists need to loosen their tool-belts.

Q: How many feminists does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A: Just one. She holds it up to the socket and waits for the world to revolve around her.