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	<title>Comments on: Ubuntu Has No &#8220;I&#8221; In It</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Emmons</title>
		<link>http://neveryetmelted.com/2009/07/10/ubuntu-has-no-i-in-it/comment-page-1/#comment-168579</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Emmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 12:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I am familiar enough with Christianity to suspect that the Bishop is proposing to invent a new religion...

You&#039;re familiar with American Protestantism, obviously.  But that is not representative. You and the other scoffers are obviously unaware that these remarks of Ms. Schori are in keeping with _Being as Communion_ by John Zizioulas, an eastern Orthodox bishop.  This important theological work and its author are thoroughly traditional in their grounding: the doctrine of the Holy Trinity, the ancient creeds, and the Fathers of the Church.  

Google also for &quot;From First Baptist to the First Century&quot; by Clark Carlton, who converted to Eastern Orthodoxy, in large part out of disgust with Protestantism&#039;s infatuation with the big I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>I am familiar enough with Christianity to suspect that the Bishop is proposing to invent a new religion&#8230;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re familiar with American Protestantism, obviously.  But that is not representative. You and the other scoffers are obviously unaware that these remarks of Ms. Schori are in keeping with <em>Being as Communion</em> by John Zizioulas, an eastern Orthodox bishop.  This important theological work and its author are thoroughly traditional in their grounding: the doctrine of the Holy Trinity, the ancient creeds, and the Fathers of the Church.</p>
<p>Google also for &#8220;From First Baptist to the First Century&#8221; by Clark Carlton, who converted to Eastern Orthodoxy, in large part out of disgust with Protestantism&#8217;s infatuation with the big I.</p>
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		<title>By: modestlyEnlightened</title>
		<link>http://neveryetmelted.com/2009/07/10/ubuntu-has-no-i-in-it/comment-page-1/#comment-141549</link>
		<dc:creator>modestlyEnlightened</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 12:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>evolution of theology - end of orthodoxies finally

time to update the churches, mosques and synagogues about 500 years post Spinoza 

hail to another episcopal chaplain John Eyrrick 1932-2004</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>evolution of theology &#8211; end of orthodoxies finally</p>
<p>time to update the churches, mosques and synagogues about 500 years post Spinoza</p>
<p>hail to another episcopal chaplain John Eyrrick 1932-2004</p>
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		<title>By: JJM</title>
		<link>http://neveryetmelted.com/2009/07/10/ubuntu-has-no-i-in-it/comment-page-1/#comment-140895</link>
		<dc:creator>JJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe I&#039;ll just stick with my unreconstructed Papist beliefs, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe I&#8217;ll just stick with my unreconstructed Papist beliefs, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie's Farm</title>
		<link>http://neveryetmelted.com/2009/07/10/ubuntu-has-no-i-in-it/comment-page-1/#comment-140761</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie's Farm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Episcopal High Priestess Reinvents Christianity...&lt;/strong&gt;

Story at Never Yet Melted. 
My familiarity with Ubuntu is limited indeed, but I am familiar enough with Christianity to suspect that the Bishop is proposing to invent&#160;a new religion based on communitarian political principles rather than on&#160;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Episcopal High Priestess Reinvents Christianity&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Story at Never Yet Melted.<br />
My familiarity with Ubuntu is limited indeed, but I am familiar enough with Christianity to suspect that the Bishop is proposing to invent&nbsp;a new religion based on communitarian political principles rather than on&nbsp;...</p>
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		<title>By: man</title>
		<link>http://neveryetmelted.com/2009/07/10/ubuntu-has-no-i-in-it/comment-page-1/#comment-140654</link>
		<dc:creator>man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rand&#039;s defense of the individual in a formal economic structure has little to do with Jefferts-Schori&#039;s remarks in reference to an ultimate salvation or a collective soul. She did not mean that, as individuals, we do not have our own place in the physical world, but that together we collectively make up the spiritual one. In other words, heaven - not earth - will be a collective.

@Peterrabbit: You can&#039;t get laid on an individual basis. It requires a partner, or even - gasp! - a collective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rand&#8217;s defense of the individual in a formal economic structure has little to do with Jefferts-Schori&#8217;s remarks in reference to an ultimate salvation or a collective soul. She did not mean that, as individuals, we do not have our own place in the physical world, but that together we collectively make up the spiritual one. In other words, heaven &#8211; not earth &#8211; will be a collective.</p>
<p>@Peterrabbit: You can&#8217;t get laid on an individual basis. It requires a partner, or even &#8211; gasp! &#8211; a collective.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterRabbit</title>
		<link>http://neveryetmelted.com/2009/07/10/ubuntu-has-no-i-in-it/comment-page-1/#comment-140590</link>
		<dc:creator>PeterRabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? You&#039;ve got to be kidding, right?

I think that what you really need is to get laid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? You&#8217;ve got to be kidding, right?</p>
<p>I think that what you really need is to get laid!</p>
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		<title>By: Assistant Village Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Assistant Village Idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Gospel of Nice.</description>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 02:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the saying goes, I never left the Anglican Communion, the Anglican Communion left me...at least in Canada and the US.

I wish them well, but they&#039;ll have to get along without me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the saying goes, I never left the Anglican Communion, the Anglican Communion left me&#8230;at least in Canada and the US.</p>
<p>I wish them well, but they&#8217;ll have to get along without me.</p>
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		<title>By: Episcopal high priestess reinvents Christianity - City-Data Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Episcopal high priestess reinvents Christianity - City-Data Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PAS</title>
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		<dc:creator>PAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s quite a feat, to declare 2000+ years of theology teachings as invalid, and on the basis of what?  Political correct bullshit.  Small wonder people are leaving the Episcopal church in droves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s quite a feat, to declare 2000+ years of theology teachings as invalid, and on the basis of what?  Political correct bullshit.  Small wonder people are leaving the Episcopal church in droves.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://neveryetmelted.com/2009/07/10/ubuntu-has-no-i-in-it/comment-page-1/#comment-140540</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This woman has sickened herself with her marxist hallucinations.

The only possible salvation is individual salvation.

If I have an individual soul, then that&#039;s the only way it could be.

Maybe she&#039;s ready to join that great Hive-mind, the Borg - the ultimate collective.

Maybe she missed out on the fact that all of human progress so far on this earth has been the story of our noble efforts to escape one miserable collective or another, and to live in freedom.

Hey, Katherine, there&#039;s a small book called &quot;Anthem&quot; by Ayn Rand - you should read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This woman has sickened herself with her marxist hallucinations.</p>
<p>The only possible salvation is individual salvation.</p>
<p>If I have an individual soul, then that&#8217;s the only way it could be.</p>
<p>Maybe she&#8217;s ready to join that great Hive-mind, the Borg &#8211; the ultimate collective.</p>
<p>Maybe she missed out on the fact that all of human progress so far on this earth has been the story of our noble efforts to escape one miserable collective or another, and to live in freedom.</p>
<p>Hey, Katherine, there&#8217;s a small book called &#8220;Anthem&#8221; by Ayn Rand &#8211; you should read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rainbow Priestess Idiocy &#171; Central Pennsylvania Orthodox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rainbow Priestess Idiocy &#171; Central Pennsylvania Orthodox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There&#8217;s no &#8220;I&#8221; in Ubuntu. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There&#8217;s no &#8220;I&#8221; in Ubuntu. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Central Pennsylvania Orthodox</title>
		<link>http://neveryetmelted.com/2009/07/10/ubuntu-has-no-i-in-it/comment-page-1/#comment-140532</link>
		<dc:creator>Central Pennsylvania Orthodox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There&#8217;s no &#8220;I&#8221; in Ubuntu. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There&#8217;s no &#8220;I&#8221; in Ubuntu. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ahem</title>
		<link>http://neveryetmelted.com/2009/07/10/ubuntu-has-no-i-in-it/comment-page-1/#comment-140531</link>
		<dc:creator>ahem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The western church is riddled with fuzzy-headed marxism; it&#039;s what&#039;s killing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The western church is riddled with fuzzy-headed marxism; it&#8217;s what&#8217;s killing it.</p>
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		<title>By: KRW</title>
		<link>http://neveryetmelted.com/2009/07/10/ubuntu-has-no-i-in-it/comment-page-1/#comment-140530</link>
		<dc:creator>KRW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This leaves me with waaay too many questions:

What does Ubuntu have to do with Christianity?  

What is the first person subjective pronoun in Bantu?

What is so admirable about how Africa is organized that makes any of its philosophies, relative to the hundreds/thousands/whatever of Europe, the Americas, or Asia, worthy of serious consideration?

Does the &quot;Rand&quot; refer to Ayn Rand?  The atheist who said that the individual neither sacrifices himself for others or others for himself?  

Isn&#039;t Christianity is closer to Jefferts-Schori than to Rand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This leaves me with waaay too many questions:</p>
<p>What does Ubuntu have to do with Christianity?</p>
<p>What is the first person subjective pronoun in Bantu?</p>
<p>What is so admirable about how Africa is organized that makes any of its philosophies, relative to the hundreds/thousands/whatever of Europe, the Americas, or Asia, worthy of serious consideration?</p>
<p>Does the &#8220;Rand&#8221; refer to Ayn Rand?  The atheist who said that the individual neither sacrifices himself for others or others for himself?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t Christianity is closer to Jefferts-Schori than to Rand?</p>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
		<link>http://neveryetmelted.com/2009/07/10/ubuntu-has-no-i-in-it/comment-page-1/#comment-140488</link>
		<dc:creator>Art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“Ubuntu doesn’t have any ‘I’s in it,” she said.&lt;/i&gt;

No, but &lt;i&gt;idiot&lt;/i&gt; does!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Ubuntu doesn&#8217;t have any &#8216;I&#8217;s in it,&#8221; she said.</i></p>
<p>No, but <i>idiot</i> does!</p>
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		<title>By: Thalpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thalpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ayn Rand would love this one!</description>
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