I want Obama to instruct the Hawaii officials to release the official original document they say they have in their hands. Why not?
Ho! Ho! Just watch Andrew crayfish, after the left turns on the email heat.
My goal here is transparency and avoiding double standards. I’m sorry I got lost a little in the weeds there. And I would think it’s clear enough I’m not part of the Birther crowd. I’m trying to defuse them. I’m done now.
But National Review says Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth is his real, full, complete, and entire birth certificate.
The fundamental fiction is that Obama has refused to release his â€œrealâ€ birth certificate. This is untrue. The document that Obama has made available is the document that Hawaiian authorities issue when they are asked for a birth certificate. There is no secondary document cloaked in darkness, only the state records that are used to generate birth certificates when they are requested.
If one applies for a United States passport, the passport office will demand a birth certificate. It defines this as an official document bearing â€œyour full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records.â€ The Hawaiian birth certificate President Obama has producedâ€”the document is formally known as a â€œcertificate of live birthâ€â€”bears that information. It has been inspected by reporters, and several state officials have confirmed that the information in permanent state records is identical to that on the presidentâ€™s birth certificateâ€”which is precisely what one expects, of course, since the state records are used to generate those documents when they are requested. In other words, what President Obama has produced is the â€œrealâ€ birth certificate of myth and lore. The director of Hawaiiâ€™s health department and the registrar of records each has personally verified that the information on Obamaâ€™s birth certificate is identical to that in the stateâ€™s records, the so-called vault copy.
Mark Krikorian, however, offers an email rejoinder by Glynn Custred.
The question of Barack Obama’s birth certificate has provoked a surpisingly aggressive response from the White House and near hysteria from Obama supporters. If the question is so crazy, and especially since conservatives have joined the Obama supporters in their condemnation of those who asked them (Bill O’Reilly, Ann Coulter, the National Review), why all the fuss?
The question on which the “birthers” hinge their complaint is, is there a more specific document that the president is purposefully witholding from the public? No one seems willing or able to answer that question in a straight forward manner, thus fostering an atmosphere in which doubts linger and conspiracy theories thrive.
The real problem, however, is not the president’s place of birth (it is highly unlikely that he was born anywhere but where he claims) but the Nixonian secrecy with which he has chosen to surround himself. Has Obama released his transcripts from Occidental College and Harvard? (we know all about Bush’s mediocre grades at Yale). Has he given permission for his theses and publications to be released? If not, why not? Michelle got into hot water when her thesis was publicized. Maybe Barack learned a lesson from that episode. And why the secrecy about the grades of such a smart guy as Obama? Might they reveal some kind of favoritism along the way?
We do know that there are things Obama tried to hide, such as his association with Jeremiah Wright and Father Pfleger as well as William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. Do his records reveal other questionable associations or statements? Where is the transparency we expect of public officials? Why is Obama getting a pass when other presidents do not? And why the hysteria when the topic is brought up?
Anent National Review’s position, I agree that the Certificate of Live Birth probably is the form used conventionally as proof of birth, but, come on, guys, do you really believe that the state of Hawaii does not bother to record the actual location of birth, typically the hospital? It is difficult to believe that a record more complete, at least in that respect, does not exist.
The real question is why has Barack Obama spent, as of last March more than $800,000 (by now, doubtless, a lot more), opposing all those court cases demanding he prove his citizenship by releasing a complete birth record?
If no such thing exists, it would be awfully silly to spend over a million dollars resisting proving its non-existence.
I agree that it seems implausible that Obama was born elsewhere than Hawaii. The only evidence for the alleged birth in Momabasa is the interview of Sara Obama, BO’s grandmother, by a clearly conniving Bible-thumper who is doing everything he can to get her to say she was present at Barack Obama’s birth at a hospital in Momabasa. She is elderly and at one point goes along and repeats the words he is putting in her moith, but another relative, a Mr. Ogombe immediately corrects her, and the “proof” dissipates. I listened to it, it was partially inaudible, and I wound up having no confidence in the reliability of anything anyone there was saying.
But I do suspect there are other real, and politically embarrassing, personal details, like Barack Obama’s probable adoption by Lolo Soetero, his dual British citizenship (resulting from having a Kenyan father), the possibility that he may have owned and actually used a British passport to travel to countries banning US citizens, the question of whether he may have needed to take official steps to change his name from Barry Soetero to Barack Obama or to recover US citizenship after being adopted in Indonesia and never did, are all more likely to be the troubling issues requiring a coverup.