AirTran Flight 297 was scheduled to leave Atlanta on November 17th at 4:43 PM en route to Houston’s Hobby Airport. An incident occurred in which a flight attendant took away a cell phone from a Middle Eastern passenger who refused to turn it off during takeoff.
Accounts differ considerable about what occurred. Some (Yehudi, Robinson) describe very alarming behavior on the part of the Muslim passengers. One account describes a physical confrontation between other passengers and one of the Muslims. Another account fails to describe either.
Subsequently, the passenger and a group of twelve others he was traveling with were removed from the plane. Two and a half hours later, the Muslims were allowed to reboard and Flight 297 departed missing a dozen or so of the original passengers who declined to continue. The original air crew apparently had been replaced. The plane ultimately arrived safely in Houston.
Chaplain Keith A. Robinson gives a second-hand account of the initial incident quoting an unidentified other passenger.
(H)e related that when Flight 297 left the concourse the first time it began taxiing to take off when approximately 12 men of Middle Eastern appearance stood up and began dancing and singing in an Arabic dialect. They refused to be seated when directed to do so by the flight attendants. Then, the singing stopped and some of the men took out their cell phones and began taking pictures of the other individual passengers. Again, the men were ordered to be seated by the flight crew and refused while continuing to take their pictures. Next, the deâ€boarded passenger related that a few of the men gestured with imaginary guns as their fingers, indicating with their triggering action that they would shoot the people on the plane.
The flight crew declared an emergency and the plane returned to the concourse. The 12 men were taken to another area of the airport and questioned. It is my understanding that their luggage was removed and checked. Then, ten of the men were allowed to get back on the plane. Thatâ€™s when the 12â€15 passengers decided that they wanted to get off that plane and
take other flights. This ordeal had gone on approximately 2 hours to this point.
Robinson joined the flight when it finally departed. He describes “sinister” laughter from the reboarded Muslim passenger and perceived considerable apprehension on the part of some of his fellow travelers, but reports no actual further threatening behavior.
Nonetheless, Robinson concludes expressing strong opposition to the Middle Easterners having been allowed to re-board. He also contends that at the time of the initial incident other passengers should have attacked the Muslims and forced them back into their seats.
According to this account, posted in a series of comments to a November 18th news agency account by someone signing himself Yehudi, passengers (including Yehudi) actually did force two Muslims to sit down.
One week ago, I went to Ohio on business and to see my father. On Tuesday, November the 17th, I returned home. If you read the papers the 18th you may have seen a blurb where a AirTran flight was cancelled from Atlanta to Houston due to a man who refused to get off of his cell phone before takeoff. It was on Fox. This was NOT what happened. I was in 1st class coming home. 11 Muslim men got on the plane in full attire. 2 sat in 1st class and the rest peppered themselves throughout the plane all the way to the back. As the plane taxied to the runway the stewardesses gave the safety spiel we are all so familiar with. At that time, one of the men got on his cell and called one of his companions in the back and proceeded to talk on the phone in Arabic very loudly and very aggressively. This took the 1st stewardess out of the picture for she repeatedly told the man that cell phones were not permit (sic)
To which one of the men said â€œshut up infidel dog!â€ She went to take the camcorder and he began to scream in her face in Arabic. At that exact moment, all 11 of them got up and started to walk the cabin. This is where I had had enough! I got up and started to the back where I heard a voice behind me from another Texan twice my size say â€œI got your back.â€ I grabbed the man who had been on the phone by the arm and said â€œyou WILL go sit down or you Will be thrown from this plane!â€ As I â€œledâ€ him around me to take his seat, the fellow Texan grabbed him by the back of his neck and his waist and headed out with him. I then grabbed the 2nd man and said, â€œYou WILL do the same!â€ He protested but adrenaline was flowing now and he was going to go. As I escorted him forward the plane doors open and 3 TSA agents and 4 police officers entered. Me and my new Texan friend were told to cease and desist for they had this under control. I was happy to oblige actually.
There was some commotion in the back, but within moments, all 11 were escorted off the plane. They then unloaded their luggage. We talked about the occurrence and were in disbelief that it had happen, when suddenly, the door open again and on walked all 11!! Stone faced, eyes front and robotic (the only way I can describe it). The stewardess from the back had been in tears and when she saw this, she was having NONE of it! Being that I was up front, I heard and saw the whole ordeal. She told the TSA agent there was NO WAY she was staying on the plane with these men. The agent told her they had searched them and were going to go through their luggage with a fine tooth comb and that they were allowed to proceed to Houston. The captain and co-captain came out and told the agent â€œwe and our crew will not fly this plane!â€ After a word or two, the entire crew, luggage in tow, left the plane. 5 minutes later, the cabin door opened again and a whole new crew walked on.
“Yehudi” is identified in this collection of sources on the incident as Tedd Petruna. His account is clearly mistaken in stating that the flight was canceled.
UPDATE, 12/9: The Atlanta Constitution identifies the Yehudi account as originating with a Facebook entry by Theodore Petruna, and then proceeds to demonstrate that Mr. Petruna was not on Flight 297, thus debunking his story.
Friday afternoon, AirTran responded to Petruna’s allegations in a point-by-point response to his e-mail, posted on the airline’s internal Web site and made available to the media.
“There are no reports of any passenger standing up in a threatening manner,” according to the AirTran statement. “At no time was there any physical altercation between passengers.”
Although AirTran previously had declined to release the flight manifest, that changed Friday evening. In addition to discounting Petruna’s story, the airline responded to the amount of attention it believed the circulated e-mail was gaining, White said.
There was no way Petruna could have seen what he described on Flight 297, AirTran said in a statement. Petruna departed from Akron-Canton, Ohio, on AirTran Flight 205 on Nov. 17, officials said. He was supposed to connect to Flight 297 for Houston, but he missed his first flight out of Ohio. And therefore, he missed the connecting flight.
AirTran said Flight 297 first left its gate at 4:40 p.m., “a full 26 minutes before Flight 205 arrived at the gate in Atlanta, making this flight connection impossible.
Hat tip to Spook86.
Atlanta Journal-Constitution account quoting passenger Nancy Deveikis and AirTran spokesman Christopher White.
White says a passenger refused to turn off a cell phone because he did not understand English. Deveikis says passenger was looking at a camera.
Deveikis believed the whole thing was simply a misunderstanding and a case of overreaction by the flight attendant.
Deveikis, who often flies to Houston for business, chose to remain on the flight. She said the man with the camera and his entire group reboarded the plane. The whole incident, which scared other passengers who weren’t clear what was happening, could have easily been avoided.
“Just one flight attendant snowed everyone into believing she had an irate passenger,” Deveikis said.
Snopes classifies the terrorism threat as unproven.
The incident sounds fairly alarming on the bases of two accounts, but one of them is second hand and the other is basically anonymous, so I have to agree with Snopes.
See what happens when you allow a Texan on a plane? Rootin’ Tootin’ Cowboys.
Must have taken his “Macho Lead” from the bowlegged clown who recently left Washington.
Larry Templeton (or is it simpleton?) First of all, I’d be happy if the “rootin’ tootin’ cowboy” intervened in a plane where I was a passengar and this happened. I would venture to guess that you are the type to simply sit in your seat and let someone get their glasses knocked off.
Secondly, why do libs continue to attack the former president?! Can you comment on the article without showing your fear of the 2010 elections?
Let us pray for Larry and his ilk that they are rescued from their foolish thoughts.
Tulab Lua Arabia
Well I wish I was on the flight. I am currently studying Arabic and prolly could tell what they were saying. They were probably trying to act like punks and scare passengers/Americans. I’m glad that a few Americans showed that we are indeed different than Europeans.
“Yehudi” is Arabic for Jew. In my class the Arabic teachers use it rather freely. It makes me uncomfortable but I suppose its harmless. Arab hatred of the Jews is pathological (educated, uneducated, it doesn’t matter).
Bottom line is men need to act like men and take action when this sort of threatening behavior raises. 12 suspects is a problem (I know what it is to fight multiple opponents and it isn’t very fun.), but it is what it is. Scrap as soon as you feel threatened.
I wonder if the TSA threw a sky marshal on the flight after that fracas?
So why weren’t the disruptive men charged with a crime under 49USC46504 Interfering with a Flight Crew:
“An individual on an aircraft in the special aircraft jurisdiction of the United States who, by assaulting or intimidating a flight crew member or flight attendant of the aircraft, interferes with the performance of the duties of the member or attendant or lessens the ability of the member or attendant to perform those duties, or attempts or conspires to do such an act, shall be fined under title 18, imprisoned for not more than 20 years, or both. However, if a dangerous weapon is used in assaulting or intimidating the member or attendant, the individual shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life.”
Tulab, since you are studying Arabic, why don’t you also learn more English. Prolly is not a word. By golly, duh! Er, ummm…now were’s my deeploma? Reckon itsa roun here sumwere’s, ain’t it? Aw, shucks, itd be rot here under my puter, nexta my texta. Btw, fyi it’s less impressive when one flaunts one’s level of education, as others then tend to more closely scrutinize the credibility of one purporting to be highly intelligent. TTYL…or not.
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