17 Feb 2010

Triad Homemade 12 Gauge Revolver

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In the old days, Triad wars featured more traditional weapons.

Recently the police in Taiwan captured a more modern, but equally unusual, example of Triadic weaponry. EDNDO Gun Blog:

(bad Google translation from Chinese, edited by me)

Police said 19-year-old gang member So and So was apprehended for violation of weapon-carry laws resulting in the search and seizure of an arsenal housed on the 7th Floor of Linsen North Road, Suite A. A revolver and 6 rounds of canister-style shotgun ammunition, as well as four pistols, one a standard Beretta, the other three improvised firearms, along with 15 bullets and 19 blank cartridges.

This is the very large shotgun revolver, can be loaded with 6 rounds. The frame is of steel construction. With a short barrel, it weighs more than 3 kilograms (6 lbs, 10 oz.). There is no rifling, but there is a base intended for a sight. There is no guard on the exposed trigger, and so safety, so when fully loaded, if the trigger were to pulled intentionally or by mistake, the weapon will fire, which is very dangerous.

The incongruous home-made Beretta logo and the “Made in USA” must both be decorative efforts to add logos to make the piece look more like a factory manufactured weapon.

From Gizmodo via Karen L Myers.


I suppose Triad members in Taiwan must have importing issues, but nearly 7 pounds worth of revolver is a lot to carry, and the recoil from a 12 gauge revolver must be awfully unpleasant. Taurus actually produces a series of revolvers chambered for both .45 Long Colt/.410 Shotshell representing a considerably more practical application of the same idea.

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12 gauge is a bit excessive, indeed. But 16 gauge is doable, if I may say so. I did some tests with a 16 gauge handgun of my own, longtime ago now. What I learned from this experiment is that 16 gauge is a limit beyond which one enters the realm of monstrosities such this thing you show on a photo.
With a 5 lb 16 gauge handgun whose barrel was 12” long, the recoil was sharp, but perfectly bearable. Using 16 gauge rifled slugs, and holding the gun with one hand, I was surprised to see that I could hit with certainty a paper dish of 8” at a distance of 20 yards.


One more little thing about this gun.

I notice that the tooling quality is rather good, but that frame has been poorly designed. It is too bulky because it seems that the gunsmith who did it assumed that the 12ga is a very powerful caliber. Not that much. The pressure inside the chamber of 12ga is inferior to 1,200 bar, which is not a very high number. By comparison, and at the opposite end of the scale, the pressure inside the chamber of a rifle for big games may reach 3,800 bar.

In the case of a revolver, when the ammunition chosen is much too strong (typically, a mistake done during home-made cartridge reloading), the cylinder may explode, in the worst case scenario of course. But when the ammunition is just “a bit too strong” a fatigue of the frame takes place around the cylinder. This fatigue manifests itself by a progressive move backward of the upper part of the frame located around the cylinder called “cage”. Thus the cage is no longer perfectly rectangular, and the first perceptible sign of this phenomenon manifests itself when the rim of the cartridge’s case begins to rub against the rear part of the cage, just above the firing pin. It is quite clear that the person who built this revolver wanted to avoid this problem in designing a very bulky case strong enough to bear the pressure of much more powerful types of ammunitions. According to my own estimate, given the aforesaid about pressure, the thickness of the upper and lower parts of the cage are nearly twice too thick. The same remark applies to the rear part of the cage (between the cylinder and the hammer). Moreover, the design of the handgrip does not match the effort invested in the rest of this gun; as such it is totally improper for a one-hand use, let alone the choice of 12ga instead of a more reasonable 16 or 20ga.

hot carl

obviously you’ve never fought the triad!!!


Is there any drawings or blueprints, tech data on it? I’m very interested!!!


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