14 Oct 2016

Mousey is Bitter

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He is responding (angrily) to the above tweet on “American Greatness,” one of those self-important little Alt-Right sites, founded, it tells us, because “The soil of the conservative movement is exhausted. It needs fertilization, re-sowing, and diligent cultivation if it is to thrive again.

(Personally, as a life-long Movement Conservative, I get pretty sick of this bunch or that bunch of inferior writers who want to substitute Nativism (and frequently merely as the polite, public version of White Nationalism) for Conservatism telling me that Conservatives have failed them by not winning every election and public policy battle in their short lifetimes, and therefore all conservative intellectuals should step aside in favor of Pepe the frog and Donald Trump.)

Trumpkins like Mousey have only this one argument: if you are not for Trump, you are electing Hillary, and Hillary’s election would be the worst disastrous irreversible Apocalyptic thing, and it will be all your fault!

I don’t precisely fit the paradigm of Mousey’s conservative target, who is supposed to be saying: “I’ve always found a way to support every Republican nominee and mostly have been proud to do so, even when some of them had not been my ideal candidate and I found serious reasons for disagreement. Trump is the first one I consider beyond the pale, because of” — the reasoning varies a little. “As such, I simply cannot vote for him, and I find that to be the saddest thing ever to happen in my political life.”

Like a lot of people, I have no intention of voting for either Donald or Hillary. But this is not the first time I declined to vote for the Republican nominee. I didn’t vote Nixon in 1972, the first presidential election I was old enough to vote in. I considered (correctly) that Nixon was not a conservative and was not trustworthy, and I certainly wasn’t going to vote for George McGovern, running as the candidate of commies, either. I threw away my vote by casting it (ironically) for John Schmitz, a whacky Bircher.

I also voted for neither major party candidate in 1992. I knew personally and liked George H.W. Bush, but thought his breaking his word on “no new taxes” made it impossible for me to support him. I obviously wouldn’t vote for Bubba either. So I voted that time for Pat Buchanan (a vote I have come to regret over the years). I think Trump is less conservative and even less trustworthy than Nixon, and a more preposterous presidential candidate than John Schmitz. And I’m not sad in the least. I have no problem at all declining to support Trump.

Where I guess I differ from Mousey there is I never supposed that my single vote was actually determinative, so I do not believe that my abstention from supporting Trump means I will have elected Hillary. Au contraire, I would suggest to Mousey that the people really responsible for electing Hillary (who seems, at this point, unavoidably destined to win) are all the low-grade morons who chose to support an unqualified, unelectable laughingstock with an atrocious character over a huge number of qualified and legitimate other candidates, pretty much any of whom would actually have beaten Hillary with a landslide. When Hillary wins, I have to break it to you, Publius, old boy, it will really be your fault. Jonah Goldberg and Bill Kristol did not make all you lemmings jump off the cliff.

And you can stop all the recriminations and appeals. You bozos are not qualified, not remotely, to replace serious conservative intellectuals. In the first place, you are not really conservative. Your political posture is a kind of anti-leftism buried in a larger volume of anti-elitism and xenophobia. You essentially oppose at least some significant portion of the left-wing agenda by adopting precisely the reactionary postures of irrational animosity and failed resentment that the left loves to accuse conservatives of being all about. You are the left’s dream opponents.

We are obviously not really on the same side. You guys are Nativists (if not downright 1488-ers) with your knickers in a twist over some Hispanic worker with a leaf-blower in his hand. You don’t want limited government. You want entitlements for you, just not for those other guys over there. You want a Bismarkian alliance between a government on the Right and your own White lower middle class. You are not in favor of economic liberty or laissez faire or free trade. You want protective tariffs to defend you from foreign manufacturing competition, and you want closed borders and a wall to protect you from domestic labor competition. You are not interested in defending freedom outside the United States. That kind of thing is for Jewish neocons. You want nothing that is not all about you personally. The correct foreign policy is pre-WWII “America First” isolationism. No wonder you guys are not professional conservative intellectuals. You obviously failed both Economics and History at school.

And let me add one more very important point. The rest of us are really sick and tired of hearing about how you dipshit imbeciles are impatiently waiting to take over political and intellectual leadership from the unworthy cadre presently in charge on the Right. Well, Trump is going down in flames, and you are, as your candidate would say, Losers! Yuge Losers! You have nothing to sell but resentment, bad economics, and discredited and reprehensible political impulses. The Know Nothings lost in the 1850s and they are losing again in 2016. You are not taking over anything. You will be discredited by this election, and your kind will, in future, soon cease to have influence over Conservatism or the GOP.

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Scullman

Think it’s time for your therapy appointment yet?

I’d vote, yup.



Scullman

Aww, jeez. Maybe your right.

Damn us for not liking yet another Bush for the nod (what, is it twelve years now since he was governor and had anything to do with…..anything?)
How dare us think !JEB! was the biggest pussy we’d ever seen during the primary.

And with that last name, no less. (who’d a thunk the Bush name and $115 million bucks gets you jack shit these days anyhow?)

How dare us not appreciate his genius, I mean, he’s a Bush.

BTW, did you know it’s an “act of love” when folks cross our borders, illegally (that means against the law, you know, like the very first fuking’ thing you did on day fuking’ one, was break U.S. law?

Dude. So loving. Let me count the ways.



Bunny

Low-grade morons…xenophobic…lemmings…bozos…Nativists…lower middle class (ooh!)…dipshit imbeciles…unworthy…losers…YUGE LOSERS! There’s that rage stroke I warned you about, Mr. JDZ. Have you tried meditation?



JDZ

I’m merely reciprocating the constant stream of insults directed at real conservatives by representatives of the Alt-Right.



JDZ

Jeb Bush was just before Kasich and Trump nearly my last choice for nominee, but he would now be winning and we’d be better off.



JDZ

I don’t do therapy. I just demolish Alt-Right-ers and then have another drink.



Scullman

Aww, Mr. “Real” Conservative…are we having a wittle’ bit of a hard day today?

Nobody appreciating you and your cohorts magnificent conservative minds? And those mighty principles that so successfully unfucked the many problems facing our nation these last sixteen years?

Oh, wait. I know. Got it. It’s all the fault of that skinny black guy in Washington, right?

He must be some damn powerful, mighty skinny black guy, dat for sure.

Back to that vaunted Skull&Bones genius family for a sec.
You know the one, the oldest kid teeing it up somewhere in Florida right about now? Yeah, that one.

Just wondering how you’d figure the brilliant neo-conservative explanation for the four thousand dead Americans in Iraq for absolutely fucking nothing?

What’s that? Wait. Don’t tell me.

Another Bush “act of love” ?



JDZ

George W. Bush did kind of blow it, letting the left discredit him and his efforts in Iraq. It was not George’s fault that the real estate chickens came home to roost, though, just in time to elect a red-diaper baby/black man who knew how to BS whites president.

I was there for the 2000 primaries. GWB was not as conservative a GOP candidate as I would have liked, but he was the best we could get, and we won –you may recall– narrowly with him. It just is some kind of nutsy-cuckoo fantasy that conservatives and Republicans had all these other great choices. In a perfect world, Dick Cheney would have run at the top of the ticket, instead of as VP, but… you probably could not have got all opportunists, money guys, and moderates to accept Cheney, and Dick Cheney’s bad heart would have made him incredibly vulnerable on the presidential health issue. Obviously, Cheney himself did not try to go for it.

Back then, I would have liked Steve Forbes to win. But he just didn’t attract donors or support in the primaries.



Cactusjack

And the foregoing exchange illustrates perfectly why R’s remain outside the tent pissing in, while D’s are inside pissing out. You’ve gotta win elections first, then you get to sort out who does what.



JDZ

(Apart from the theory that I still lean to: that the whole Trump candidacy was always a Clinton operation intended to elect Hillary.)

There is the moral issue: Aren’t you ashamed to be proposing to seat a person like Donald Trump in the same office once held by Washington?

Then there is the practical question: Trump was always going to split the GOP. With Trump the nominee, serious conservatives were never going to go along and support the ticket. OTOH, if Trump had lost the nomination, you can bet that he would have run third party, saying that the nimnation was rigged and he was robbed, and the GOP would also have been split.

To win, we need the entire Republican base plus some of those moderates in the middle. In the first place, the United States is basically a respectable, responsible country. There are angry voters out there who want to burn it all down, but there are never enough of those to win a presidential election. Trump is obviously, undeniably a clown, a vulgarian, and an unprincipled scoundrel. No holier-than thou-s and no really serious responsible people are going to vote for him.

Beyond that, Trump is also pretty obviously a crook and a sexual libertine on a Hefnerian scale. What are the odds that democrat opposition research would not find damaging and discreditable financial shenanigans and sexual escapades in Donald’s background? Essentially zero. Jonah Goldberg, when the “grabbing pussy” video leaked, intelligently observed: “What would they be releasing if Trump were ten points ahead?”



fiona

Ask yourself what they’d be releasing if Cruz was the nominee – pretty much the same thing. I think it is a joke that any kind of sexual misbehavior has any kind of affect on a populace that is straight libertine already. After Clinton discussions of oral sex, topped by the incredible sales of dreck like 50 shades of Gray, the prudes have no ground to stand on. On groping, the Joe Biden pics are still on YouTube – if Google lets you view them.
As for the reformation of conservative groups, forget it. The Tea Party is united in only one respect – they will not associate with RINOS in any group. And there are not enough conservatives to fill a state house in Rhode Island.



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