17 Mar 2022

Worse Than Iwo Jima


Some deceased Russians.

Iwo Jima was the bloodiest battle in Marine Corps History. My father’s commanding officer, Graves B. Erskine commented:

“Victory was never in doubt. Its cost was…What was in doubt, in all our minds, was whether there would be any of us left to dedicate our cemetery at the end, or whether the last Marine would die knocking out the last Japanese gun and gunner.”

Guess what?

From “As Russian Troop Deaths Climb, Morale Becomes an Issue, Officials Say/More than 7,000 Russian troops have been killed in less than three weeks of fighting, according to conservative U.S. estimates” (NYT).

In 36 days of fighting on Iwo Jima during World War II, nearly 7,000 Marines were killed. Now, 20 days after President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia invaded Ukraine, his military has already lost more soldiers, according to American intelligence estimates.

The conservative side of the estimate, at more than 7,000 Russian troop deaths, is greater than the number of American troops killed over 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

It is a staggering number amassed in just three weeks of fighting, American officials say, with implications for the combat effectiveness of Russian units, including soldiers in tank formations. Pentagon officials say a 10 percent casualty rate, including dead and wounded, for a single unit renders it unable to carry out combat-related tasks.

With more than 150,000 Russian troops now involved in the war in Ukraine, Russian casualties, when including the estimated 14,000 to 21,000 injured, are near that level. And the Russian military has also lost at least three generals in the fight, according to Ukrainian, NATO and Russian officials.

Pentagon officials say that a high, and rising, number of war dead can destroy the will to continue fighting. The result, they say, has shown up in intelligence reports that senior officials in the Biden administration read every day: One recent report focused on low morale among Russian troops and described soldiers just parking their vehicles and walking off into the woods. …


HT: Ann Althouse.

5 Feedbacks on "Worse Than Iwo Jima"

bobby b

Don’t quite get the Iwo Jima comparison.

Iwo Jima: 8 square miles

Ukraine: 233,000 square miles

bob sykes

These estimates and other claims coming out of the Pentagon and NATO are outright lies. So far the Russian invasion of Ukraine has proceeded more quickly and has had greater success than our invasion of Iraq some 20 years ago.


Reinstitution of the 5 o’clock follies to commence when?

Fusil Darne

Small point, but, Iwo Jima was the bloodiest battle until the battle for Okinawa happened. Double the US death toll, of combined Army and Marine Corps forces.
14,000 dead grunts is a hell of a motivation to use atomic weapons.


Iwo Jima was the bloodiest up to that point. I avoided included that qualification for rhetorical effect.


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