01 Oct 2007

Real Conservatives Will Not Support Giuliani

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From the New York Times’ point of view, the Council for National Policy (CNP), is some sort of slightly sinister and secretive conspiratorial organ of the Religious Right. When I Googled this organization, and read over the names of members and officers, my own impression was the CNP appeared to be a slightly more diverse networking group of influential and activist movement conservatives, including many famous names. Some, but not all, were prominent figures in the Religious Right.

Not surprisingly, this group of activists did a certain amount of saber-rattling over the possibility of the Republican Party nominating Rudolph Giuliani.

Alarmed at the possibility that the Republican Party might pick Rudolph W. Giuliani as its presidential nominee despite his support for abortion rights, a coalition of influential Christian conservatives is threatening to back a third-party candidate.

The threat emerged from a group that broke away for separate discussions at a meeting Saturday in Salt Lake City of the Council for National Policy, a secretive conservative networking group. Participants said the smaller group included James C. Dobson of Focus on the Family, who is perhaps its most influential member; Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council; Richard A. Viguerie, the direct-mail pioneer; and dozens of other politically oriented conservative Christians.

Almost everyone present at the smaller group’s meeting expressed support for a written resolution stating that “if the Republican Party nominates a pro-abortion candidate we will consider running a third-party candidate,” participants said.

The participants said that the group chose the qualified term “consider” because it had not yet identified an alternative candidate, but that it was largely united in its plans to bolt the party if Mr. Giuliani, the former New York mayor, became the nominee. The participants spoke on condition of anonymity because the Council for National Policy meeting and the smaller meeting were secret, but they said members of the smaller group intended to publicize the resolution.

The CNP leak to the New York Times focussed on the Abortion issue, but I’d say that’s merely one of a number of important reasons that the movement conservative core will never support the former New York City mayor.

Giuliani’s record is that of an opportunist, statist, and populist politician. He originally came to prominence via a series of questionable prosecutions of prominent figures in the financial industry, conducted ruthlessly and in the spirit of class warfare.

Giuliani was so liberal that, back in 1994 when nearly everyone mistook George Pataki for a conservative, Giuliani tried to torpedo his gubernatorial candidacy with a last-minute endorsement of Mario Cuomo.

Neither opponents of abortion nor defenders of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms can have confidence in Giuliani’s current promises or future court appointments.

Nominating Giuliani would be a far greater disaster than nominating Nixon was. A Giuliani nomination would reverse the results of the Conservative Movement’s long and ultimately victorious struggle for control of the Republican Party, and return national control of the party to Northeastern liberal Republicans-in Name-Only.

Giuliani is an unacceptable Republican nominee, period. Real conservatives, both libertarian and traditionalist, will not support him.

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Then those conservatives can have the pleasure of having a democrat president. When will the GOP and conservatives, not necessarily the same thing, get it together and realize this isn’t a game. Don’t let perfect get in the way of the good. Do the above mentioned conservatives (that don’t speak for all of us) think that they’ll get a better deal under Clinton, etc? I’m getting tired of losing because the GOP won’t vote for a candidate. SUPPORT WHICHEVER CANDIDATE GETS THE VOTE! 100%!


If a liberal of bad personal character with a record of abusing power is going to be elected president, I’d rather the democrats do it, and not us.

Frank Dobbs

I am a conservative, a Christian, a libertarian, and a native New Yorker.

When Giuliani was mayor I saw conservative governance for the first time in my life –not the gas-baggy, ineffective lip-service we normally expect from Republicans, but the real thing. And Rudy proved that conservative governance works. And millions of people are better off today.

When Jimmy Carter visited a street in the South Bronx, nothing happened. Now, after Rudy, there are houses that are worth $500,000, and citizens who live in them are not in fear of their lives.

If you’re going to support another ‘Conservative,’ ask whether any lives were improved by his career, other than his own. The other candidates are first-class self-promoters. They are, however, not leaders.


Too bad you didn’t get to visit the real United States where conservative governance locally is the norm.


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